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		<title>By: The Modern Journalist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 40 Questions: Who Should Run Your News Website?</title>
		<link>http://contentninja.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/failing-forward/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>The Modern Journalist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 40 Questions: Who Should Run Your News Website?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kicking Rob Curley while he’s down &#171; Jason Kristufek&#8217;s We Media blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kicking Rob Curley while he’s down &#171; Jason Kristufek&#8217;s We Media blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: iowakitkat</title>
		<link>http://contentninja.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/failing-forward/#comment-178</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 18:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re talking about the same things, I think, Nettie.

 I&#039;m just frustrated because I want to see us start doing something and because I want to be a part of those doings whether it&#039;s kidney dialysis or entertainment. 

I realize I&#039;ve been doing the online thing - 10 years plus - a lot longer than most, maybe that&#039;s where my frustration originates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re talking about the same things, I think, Nettie.</p>
<p> I&#8217;m just frustrated because I want to see us start doing something and because I want to be a part of those doings whether it&#8217;s kidney dialysis or entertainment. </p>
<p>I realize I&#8217;ve been doing the online thing &#8211; 10 years plus &#8211; a lot longer than most, maybe that&#8217;s where my frustration originates.</p>
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		<title>By: contentninja</title>
		<link>http://contentninja.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/failing-forward/#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>contentninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dan: Yep, and one of the ways we &quot;develop new ways to tell the story&quot; is by letting community members help tell it.

@Matthew: A great many legal questions are unanswered at this point in the disruptive journalistic space. Some folks are OK with risking it. Others, like the Post, are apparently not. Many folks assume that answers will come eventually with lawsuits. 

@iowakitkat: Consider that &quot;community&quot; may be something different than a product. What I want to build is an online community around content that lives apart from a product. Take your kidney dialysis example. Imagine an online community around that topic, where activist members of the community contribute content, from Medicare alerts to recipes, and where they can access our databases to give their content more context. Now imagine that a niche health product can mine that community&#039;s content.  THAT&#039;s what I&#039;m talking about, baby! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dan: Yep, and one of the ways we &#8220;develop new ways to tell the story&#8221; is by letting community members help tell it.</p>
<p>@Matthew: A great many legal questions are unanswered at this point in the disruptive journalistic space. Some folks are OK with risking it. Others, like the Post, are apparently not. Many folks assume that answers will come eventually with lawsuits. </p>
<p>@iowakitkat: Consider that &#8220;community&#8221; may be something different than a product. What I want to build is an online community around content that lives apart from a product. Take your kidney dialysis example. Imagine an online community around that topic, where activist members of the community contribute content, from Medicare alerts to recipes, and where they can access our databases to give their content more context. Now imagine that a niche health product can mine that community&#8217;s content.  THAT&#8217;s what I&#8217;m talking about, baby! :)</p>
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		<title>By: iowakitkat</title>
		<link>http://contentninja.wordpress.com/2008/06/04/failing-forward/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>iowakitkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 14:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Know the community or build a community from the things you know ... as a small to middle size player in the internet, what other options do we have?
But we have to move more quickly and throw some of the pebble communities before we find ourselves competing with other sites (hmmmm, does corridor biz journal and The Edge come to mind?)
We&#039;ve been talking about innovating for a long time now. Let&#039;s commit some resources to the trench-level positions and get some of these things out there, at least. 
Keep learning the lessons from others&#039; failures, start trying, and put some resources behind it so the pebble doesn&#039;t flounder in the water.
Then talk about it and get the word out in those communities we&#039;re cultivating. Doing a health niche on kidney dialysis? See if you can mention it in dialysis center newsletters. Give them something they can use (renal diet recipes), latest news on Medicare changes, etc. and they will come. 
You have to be aware on the niche pubs, though, that your greatest audience may grow to be much wider geographically than you ever anticipated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Know the community or build a community from the things you know &#8230; as a small to middle size player in the internet, what other options do we have?<br />
But we have to move more quickly and throw some of the pebble communities before we find ourselves competing with other sites (hmmmm, does corridor biz journal and The Edge come to mind?)<br />
We&#8217;ve been talking about innovating for a long time now. Let&#8217;s commit some resources to the trench-level positions and get some of these things out there, at least.<br />
Keep learning the lessons from others&#8217; failures, start trying, and put some resources behind it so the pebble doesn&#8217;t flounder in the water.<br />
Then talk about it and get the word out in those communities we&#8217;re cultivating. Doing a health niche on kidney dialysis? See if you can mention it in dialysis center newsletters. Give them something they can use (renal diet recipes), latest news on Medicare changes, etc. and they will come.<br />
You have to be aware on the niche pubs, though, that your greatest audience may grow to be much wider geographically than you ever anticipated.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;and the legal department squelching a plan to mine Loudoun-related content from other Web sites, like YouTube and Facebook&quot;

There is a company in Cedar Rapids that makes a lot of money mining data from sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;and the legal department squelching a plan to mine Loudoun-related content from other Web sites, like YouTube and Facebook&#8221;</p>
<p>There is a company in Cedar Rapids that makes a lot of money mining data from sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan McCabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan McCabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 03:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Find new ways that the community finds their reflection and the authentic new voices. We need to be down to ground with town local, expanding into communities. Develop different ways to tell the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Find new ways that the community finds their reflection and the authentic new voices. We need to be down to ground with town local, expanding into communities. Develop different ways to tell the story.</p>
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